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    Rand al'Thor
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Rand al'Thor on 2015-05-16, 00:33

    [Eth111] wrote:HERE ZODZ IM 15 AND I UNDERTAND THIS: LET ME DUMB THIS DOWN FOR YOU AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY CAN:

    Blackjack gives you 3:2 odds, as in 1.5x, PLUS YOUR ORIGINAL BET. SO IF YOU BET 500k, YOU WIN 750k+500k, ENDING IN 1250k TOTAL. this is literally the most i can dumb down this for you if you still dont understand you need to re-take elementary school.
    AND THIS IS THE REALLY COOL PART


    1250k/500k

    =

    HOLY SHIT

    2.5 !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Cannons on 2015-05-16, 00:44

    Slash wrote:
    Jon wrote:

    Needs for brain injury
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Joe on 2015-05-16, 00:52

    Rand al'Thor wrote:
    [Eth111] wrote:HERE ZODZ IM 15 AND I UNDERTAND THIS: LET ME DUMB THIS DOWN FOR YOU AS MUCH AS I POSSIBLY CAN:

    Blackjack gives you 3:2 odds, as in 1.5x, PLUS YOUR ORIGINAL BET. SO IF YOU BET 500k, YOU WIN 750k+500k, ENDING IN 1250k TOTAL. this is literally the most i can dumb down this for you if you still dont understand you need to re-take elementary school.
    AND THIS IS THE REALLY COOL PART


    1250k/500k

    =

    HOLY SHIT

    2.5 !!!!!!!!!!!

    Incorrect. I will now explain.
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Zodz on 2015-05-16, 02:16

    Zodz wrote:winning x1.5 the amount on the table from the house

    Zodz wrote:from the house

    Amount you bet: 100m
    Winning blackjack : 150m (1.5x amount bet)

    total: win(profit) + amount you bet = 250m.

    Amount won from house....


    You guessed it ladies and gentlemen... 150m. that's 1.5x. *drops mic*

    Honestly, I feel like I dropped each of you in the same paper bag, and i'm enjoying watching you try to swing your way out.

    #zodzDancesCirclesaroundthebasic
    #ifOnlyTheyKnewHowToRead

    Furthermore - increasing to x2.5 return is not the only solution. You could have them be able to bet again their initial bet, who the fuck knows? I didnt design the vs house games. I designed the bot with God Fury only for PVP games, stats, jackpots/giveaways, etc... House stuff is 100% God Fury and Andy, take ur concerns to them.

    As long as everyone is aware 3:2 is NOT EQUAL TO x2.5 .... I am happy.
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Connor on 2015-05-16, 02:34

    Zodz wrote:
    Zodz wrote:winning x1.5 the amount on the table from the house

    Zodz wrote:from the house

    Amount you bet: 100m
    Winning blackjack : 150m (1.5x amount bet)

    total: win(profit) + amount you bet = 250m.

    Amount won from house....


    You guessed it ladies and gentlemen... 150m. that's 1.5x. *drops mic*

    Honestly, I feel like I dropped each of you in the same paper bag, and i'm enjoying watching you try to swing your way out.

    #zodzDancesCirclesaroundthebasic
    #ifOnlyTheyKnewHowToRead

    Furthermore - increasing to x2.5 return is not the only solution. You could have them be able to bet again their initial bet, who the fuck knows? I didnt design the vs house games. I designed the bot with God Fury only for PVP games, stats, jackpots/giveaways, etc... House stuff is 100% God Fury and Andy, take ur concerns to them.

    As long as everyone is aware 3:2 is NOT EQUAL TO x2.5 .... I am happy.

    Very professional of you.
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Joe on 2015-05-16, 02:37

    Zodz wrote:
    Zodz wrote:winning x1.5 the amount on the table from the house

    Zodz wrote:from the house

    Amount you bet: 100m
    Winning blackjack : 150m (1.5x amount bet)

    total: win(profit) + amount you bet = 250m.

    Amount won from house....


    You guessed it ladies and gentlemen... 150m. that's 1.5x. *drops mic*

    Honestly, I feel like I dropped each of you in the same paper bag, and i'm enjoying watching you try to swing your way out.

    #zodzDancesCirclesaroundthebasic
    #ifOnlyTheyKnewHowToRead

    Furthermore - increasing to x2.5 return is not the only solution. You could have them be able to bet again their initial bet, who the fuck knows? I didnt design the vs house games. I designed the bot with God Fury only for PVP games, stats, jackpots/giveaways, etc... House stuff is 100% God Fury and Andy, take ur concerns to them.

    As long as everyone is aware 3:2 is NOT EQUAL TO x2.5 .... I am happy.



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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Rand al'Thor on 2015-05-16, 04:59

    Hi, Zodz.

    https://support.skybet.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37/~/fraction-and-decimal-pricing

    3/2 = x2.5

    QED

    If you are still struggling with simple gambling conventions, I can personally try to explain it to you, if you like.

    Zodz wrote:the blackjack payout is 3:2 (e.g. 15:10, i.e. 3/2)

    3/2 = 1 + 1/2 = x1.5

    e.g. 100 x1.5 = 150
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Cannons on 2015-05-16, 05:16

    You realize that it's obvious to everyone you just realized your blunder. If you knew this from the start you never would have kept telling people in the Irc that the the 1.5x payout is how they do it in the casinos. You would have known it was an error immediately and been the first one to say something.

    I really have no idea how you constantly find new heights of dense to ascend to, it's incredible.

    Zodz wrote:I think it is planned to announce the changes. We hope that they will add more changes that maintain similarity to blackjack at casinos (like this one does)

    Zodz wrote:
    Jon wrote:
    Zodz wrote:I think it is planned to announce the changes. We hope that they will add more changes that maintain similarity to blackjack at casinos (like this one does)
    A casino doesn't take a 50% fee when someone ties with the dealer, nor would it penalise a bettor if they won having been dealt blackjack. In fact, I believe in most cases it's more than the usual return.

    The fact is blackjacks deal x1.5 ... and % back from ties vary from casino to casino.

    There is discussion of- if we are gonna make it more realistic, maybe add more functions found in real casinos.. Like Surrendering hand for 50% return.

    These bits were funny too
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Slash on 2015-05-16, 10:06

    Cannons wrote:You realize that it's obvious to everyone you just realized your blunder. If you knew this from the start you never would have kept telling people in the Irc that the the 1.5x payout is how they do it in the casinos. You would have known it was an error immediately and been the first one to say something.

    +1

    Zodz wrote:
    currently:

    Blackjack (1.5x)
    [00:10] <robe> !bj deal 10m
    [00:10] <@CoraGames> [RS07] robe just started a blackjack game risking 10m!
    [00:10] <@CoraGames> robe got dealt blackjack. Congratulations on winning 14.5m!


    Standard win (2x)
    [11:18] <ricgood> !bj deal 500k
    [11:18] <@CoraGames> [RS3] ricgood just started a blackjack game risking 500k!
    [11:18] <ricgood> !bj hit
    [11:18] <ricgood> !bj stand
    [11:18] <@CoraGames> Dealer had S King, S 7, totaling 17.
    [11:18] <@CoraGames> ricgood had S Queen, D 2, H 7, totaling 19.
    [11:18] <@CoraGames> Congratulations ricgood, you had the better hand and won 950k!


    I thought before it was 2x across the board? But they updated blackjacks to be more accurate.


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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Iamtaba on 2015-05-16, 11:11



    Zodz wrote:

    Amount you bet: 100m
    Winning blackjack : 150m (1.5x amount bet)

    total: win(profit) + amount you bet = 250m.



    Yes zodz, this is EXACTLY right and what we've been trying to point out. However, that's not what's happening in the bot.

    Amount bet: 100m
    winning blackjack: 50m
    Total: 150m (100m start + 50m win)

    whereas it should be the scenario you posted above lol

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    Re: fix bot

    Post by QP-47 on 2015-05-16, 15:53

    I like how you comment everything making Andy to have 0 effort. You will argue and argue, till you make good idea, then on end Andy will just read it and put in into bot [but smthing bad he will also add, like always, probably even worse odds than now]
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Zodz on 2015-05-16, 16:59

    Honestly When you take a look at which comments were posted and when, I absolutely spanked you n00bs.

    #ThePaperBag

    #3:2=1.5FromHouse

    #allOtherArgumentsImaginary


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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Rand al'Thor on 2015-05-16, 17:03

    QP-47 wrote:I like how you comment everything making Andy to have 0 effort. You will argue and argue, till you make good idea, then on end Andy will just read it and put in into bot [but smthing bad he will also add, like always, probably even worse odds than now]
    Never change, LTU.

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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Cannons on 2015-05-16, 17:08

    Zodz wrote:Honestly When you take a look at which comments were posted and when, I absolutely spanked you n00bs.

    #ThePaperBag

    #3:2=1.5FromHouse

    #allOtherArgumentsImaginary

    When someone is so wrong they have to use delusions to troll people
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by dabomb on 2015-05-16, 18:09

    So they get 50% of our money if we TIE. We get LESS than that if we get BLACKJACK. I am having a hard time understanding this logic.
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Joe on 2015-05-16, 18:27

    dabomb wrote:So they get 50% of our money if we TIE. We get LESS than that if we get BLACKJACK. I am having a hard time understanding this logic.

    i know, it's terrible
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    Re: fix bot

    Post by Jon on 2015-05-16, 18:37

    1x1=0
    1x2=1
    because you have to discount the original 1. That's how math do.

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