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    Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

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    Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Host Luke on 2011-06-28, 17:18

    10m to 200m, or more. This tactique is called "SnowBalling" on 60x2. It has some riskes, but they are very small if you follow this guide.

    Requirements: 10m, LEGIT dice cc and this guide.

    How to do it?: Start with 10m in your inventory. Go to Legit dice cc area (example. Cora Dyce), and find a trusted host. Bet him/her 500k. If you win, repeat. If you lose, bet 1m. If you lose again, bet 2m, and so on... Risk should be small. You can also bet 250k at the beginning, if you want to make the risk less.
    When you reach 20m, change that 250k bet to 500k, or 500k bet to 1m. Everytime you lose, double/1,5x your bet. It's very rare to lose all cash. At 40m cashpile, make your bet bigger. Every time your cashpile rises, you can bet more. This works approx for 9/10 ppl. You can stop in 200m, or you can just keep going, your choice.

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Breezy on 2011-06-28, 17:45

    It isnt 'very rare' to lose all your money. It happens to many people everyday. Nice theory tho
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Host Luke on 2011-06-28, 17:46

    Dragonwheel wrote:It isnt 'very rare' to lose all your money. It happens to many people everyday. Nice theory tho

    It is rare if you follow this guide.

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Breezy on 2011-06-28, 17:47

    Host Luke wrote:
    Dragonwheel wrote:It isnt 'very rare' to lose all your money. It happens to many people everyday. Nice theory tho

    It is rare if you follow this guide.

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    do you have 200m from this?
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Host Luke on 2011-06-28, 17:50

    Dragonwheel wrote:
    Host Luke wrote:
    Dragonwheel wrote:It isnt 'very rare' to lose all your money. It happens to many people everyday. Nice theory tho

    It is rare if you follow this guide.

    Regards, Luke

    do you have 200m from this?

    Not anymore, I reached 500m with this. Lost it all in dragon dyce. Bank bet ftw?

    Regards, Luke
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Breezy on 2011-06-28, 17:51

    so do you have any cash atm?
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Host Luke on 2011-06-28, 18:14

    Just 6m.

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-06-28, 19:59

    I've already shown how this method fails.

    Trevmage wrote:I've hosted 60x2 since February.... and this is called progressive betting. It usually benefits the better. But when it benefits the host, it benefits the host a lot.

    If you have 127m and were to bet 1m, 2m, 4m, 8m, 16m, 32m, 64m (I'm doing double-bet instead of triple-bet for simplicity's sake) then this is basically what you would get if the odds are 60x2:


    Odds of you winning: 97.51135%
    How much you win: 1m

    Odds of host winning: 2.48865%
    How much host wins: 127m


    Let's assume you are going to play until you win 127m from the host:
    (97.51135%)^127 = 40.07386%

    You have a 40.07386% chance of winning 127m before losing 127m by progressive betting.

    Whereas if you just bet 127m once, you have a 41% chance of winning.


    /strategy

    And also, if you're going to do this in a wager cc instead of an x2 cc, you have to consider commission.

    What happens when you bet:
    1m (Lose)
    2m (Lose)
    4m (Lose)
    8m (Lose)
    16m (Lose)
    32m (Win)
    When you win the 32m, you must subtract the commission, which leaves you with +25.6m. Now subtract your previous losses (31m in total) you end up losing 5.4m.
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Grandma on 2011-06-28, 20:37

    This has been posted many times.

    I was cleaned for 100m doing this, but that's because i got cocky Razz.

    The risk factor isn't that high, unless you're an idiot.

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-06-28, 20:46

    Dream wrote:This has been posted many times.

    I was cleaned for 100m doing this, but that's because i got cocky Razz.

    The risk factor isn't that high, unless you're an idiot.

    As I already showed... if you do this expecting to double your money, your odds are still only as good as if you just bet it all in one. Risk > Reward

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by omggg on 2011-06-29, 01:01

    Dragonwheel wrote:It isnt 'very rare' to lose all your money. It happens to many people everyday. Nice theory tho

    yeah. i did this starting with 500k, made it up too 15m then lost 5 times in a row
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Fmu on 2011-06-29, 02:04

    Interesting guide! Will try anytime soon Razz
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by DivineOli on 2011-06-30, 02:55

    Trevmage wrote:I've already shown how this method fails.

    Trevmage wrote:I've hosted 60x2 since February.... and this is called progressive betting. It usually benefits the better. But when it benefits the host, it benefits the host a lot.

    If you have 127m and were to bet 1m, 2m, 4m, 8m, 16m, 32m, 64m (I'm doing double-bet instead of triple-bet for simplicity's sake) then this is basically what you would get if the odds are 60x2:


    Odds of you winning: 97.51135%
    How much you win: 1m

    Odds of host winning: 2.48865%
    How much host wins: 127m


    Let's assume you are going to play until you win 127m from the host:
    (97.51135%)^127 = 40.07386%

    You have a 40.07386% chance of winning 127m before losing 127m by progressive betting.

    Whereas if you just bet 127m once, you have a 41% chance of winning.


    /strategy

    And also, if you're going to do this in a wager cc instead of an x2 cc, you have to consider commission.

    What happens when you bet:
    1m (Lose)
    2m (Lose)
    4m (Lose)
    8m (Lose)
    16m (Lose)
    32m (Win)
    When you win the 32m, you must subtract the commission, which leaves you with +25.6m. Now subtract your previous losses (31m in total) you end up losing 5.4m.

    Odds are worse for you only if you plan to play until you double entire starting cash no?

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-06-30, 03:03

    DivineOli wrote:Odds are worse for you only if you plan to play until you double entire starting cash no?

    Well... if you're only trying to make a little bit of cash with a lot, I suppose this would work *most* of the time.

    However, if you have 127m and you're trying to make only 1m profit, you would try this:

    Bet 1m
    If Lose, Bet 2m
    If Lose, Bet 4m
    If Lose, Bet 8m
    If Lose, Bet 16m
    If Lose, Bet 32m
    If Lose, Bet 64m
    If Lose, you're cleaned.

    Now you would expect to probably win 1 of those 7 games. But what if you don't? Each time you attempt to gain 1m with this strategy doing 60x2, there is a 2.489% chance that you will those the entire 127m.

    So, you have a 97.511% chance of winning 1m each time.
    But do you really want to take the 2.489% chance of losing 127m?

    Up to you, but odds are still against you.
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by EasyMackPro on 2011-07-01, 05:12

    Dicing always has risk eventually you would think you would win but you never know it still relies on luck Smile

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by -Tyler on 2011-07-01, 05:33

    I've seen 10 lose streaks.

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    Post by Trevmage on 2011-07-01, 05:48

    HarroMeTyler wrote:I've seen 10 lose streaks.

    I've seen worse, but yes. This is my point, when you get on a lose streak, this strategy wipes out your bank.
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by DivineOli on 2011-07-01, 05:49

    EasyMackPro wrote:Dicing always has risk eventually you would think you would win but you never know it still relies on luck Smile

    Probability studies = win.

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-07-01, 06:01

    DivineOli wrote:
    EasyMackPro wrote:Dicing always has risk eventually you would think you would win but you never know it still relies on luck Smile
    Probability studies = win.

    Probability studies = "Oh, I guess hosting always has better odds than betting"
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by DivineOli on 2011-07-01, 20:06

    Trevmage wrote:
    DivineOli wrote:
    EasyMackPro wrote:Dicing always has risk eventually you would think you would win but you never know it still relies on luck Smile
    Probability studies = win.

    Probability studies = "Oh, I guess hosting always has better odds than betting"


    YUP Very Happy lol

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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Near Orbit on 2011-07-02, 02:08

    this is called martingale betting system
    anyways you need large amount of cash
    i lost 5 times in a row trying this -.-
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    Re: Guide to change 10m -> to 200m.

    Post by Cain on 2011-07-17, 02:13

    bro dicing is all luck. very sorry :/ dude ill try it but in then end. i walk away at like 30m usually. because if not ill get to 150m and then just lose it all!

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