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    How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Host Phd on 2011-07-06, 17:26

    Hello everyone,

    So what I did was.. I wanted to test out the technique some may know (1-2-4-8...) for those that don't know, if you take those numbers multiply them by any amount..

    For example:

    I started with 8m, so I multiplied each by 1m. so if I plug it in 1m-2m-4m-8m...
    now to ensure I don't lose anything.. unless of course I'm very unlucky if I win a 1m wager I don't go higher, rather I go to back to my initial amount of 1m. now say I lose this time I double it.. so now I do 2m, and if I win back to 1m, if not up to 4.

    Logic of this Method:

    If I were to win a 1m wager, I'd have an 800k profit gain (hosts get their 10% commission). Now if I were do lose I'd have a 1m loss so now I go to 2m, if I win I'd have a 1600k gain, so from that 1m I previously lost, I'd be up 600k! now if I lose.. I'd do a 4m
    keeping in mind I've lost 1m + 2m = 3m.. if I were to win a 4m, I'd get 3200k profit, subtract the 3m, you're still up 200k.

    So in the long run it's very effective, just takes patience, also dicing is no fun with out a few big wagers, so yeah take that risk as well, but this is for those who are patient and tired of losing money.

    On the following table the initial amount includes the the amount from the previous bets as well, the *(insert amt.)* is the amount bet during that trial.

    A table of the values.

    Initial Amount | Commission(10%) | Profit

    1M |200k (2M pot)| 800k
    1M + *2M* |400k (4M pot)| 600k
    1M + 2M + *4M* |800k (8M pot)| 200k
    1M + 2M + 4M + *8M* |1600k (16M pot)| -400k (fourth loss is very unlikely, possible yes, but here's where it
    goes downhill)


    Take care,

    Host Phd.


    Last edited by Host Phd on 2011-07-06, 23:15; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Lacked table of values)
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Bf on 2011-07-06, 20:09

    Thanks for the guide! Congrats on the gp Surprised
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Sam on 2011-07-06, 21:27

    Only problem with snowballing in commission based games is that after the 3rd loss, the money taken out through commission keeps you negative.

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    Post by Host Phd on 2011-07-06, 23:01

    if the 3r dtime is 8m, you've lost 6m previously..(2m + 4m) so now if you do an 8m which is um 1600k commission you get 14.6M from the host now if you add this together, 8m + 2m + 4m = 14M, you're sitll up 600k. say you lose a 4th time, which isn't probable.. but now you start losing a little.. then you do a 16.. which is 3.2m comission = 29.8M from the host if you win, now if you add it all together.. 16m + 8m +4m + 2m = 30M, down 200k, so by the 4th yeah you'll lose money, but losing 4 times in a row has never happened to me.. possible yes, likely not so much.
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    Post by Breezy on 2011-07-06, 23:34

    Host Phd wrote:if the 3r dtime is 8m, you've lost 6m previously..(2m + 4m) so now if you do an 8m which is um 1600k commission you get 14.6M from the host now if you add this together, 8m + 2m + 4m = 14M, you're sitll up 600k. say you lose a 4th time, which isn't probable.. but now you start losing a little.. then you do a 16.. which is 3.2m comission = 29.8M from the host if you win, now if you add it all together.. 16m + 8m +4m + 2m = 30M, down 200k, so by the 4th yeah you'll lose money, but losing 4 times in a row has never happened to me.. possible yes, likely not so much.

    I tried this with 12m and got bored and bet it all and lost ^^
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Maca Skill on 2011-07-06, 23:59

    ill try this tommorow
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    Post by sponge bo272 on 2011-07-07, 03:32

    other problem is if u lose all 1m 2m 4m 8m then u have no choice but to do a 15m bet or 16m to gain all ur money back lol then start all over x] but i also figured this method out takes some luck though if u lose 4 in a row bummer x]

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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by qrooltex on 2011-07-08, 05:08

    This method only works effectively in 55x2 or 60x2 clans because you can theoretically double forever.
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Dragon_Mp on 2011-07-08, 05:09

    Pretty Decent Guide even though i cant understand some parts of it :0
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Matthew on 2011-07-08, 05:18

    If I did this I would lose all of them in a row...
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Dragon_Mp on 2011-07-08, 05:25

    Is this guide mostly relying on luck because you never know if your just gonna lose everything.
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    Post by Matthew on 2011-07-08, 06:09

    Dragon Mp wrote:Is this guide mostly relying on luck because you never know if your just gonna lose everything.

    This guide is so you don't rely as much on luck and so you have better chances of not losing it all.
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Dragon_Mp on 2011-07-08, 06:27

    o ok... So basically giving you a better chance of winning?
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by sponge bo272 on 2011-07-08, 07:11

    its pretty much increases ur chances of winning with out that much luck needed
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Dragon_Mp on 2011-07-08, 07:12

    sponge bo272 wrote:its pretty much increases ur chances of winning with out that much luck needed

    kk thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Superalex121 on 2011-07-12, 06:31

    A lot of people do this staking.
    I did the math for doing this while dicing 60x2, you had a 1/33 chance of getting cleaned (If you have ~250m, meaning you can lose 8 times before getting cleaned) After you did this 33 times, you'd probably get cleaned.
    The likelyhood of getting cleaned doing this is probably probably just slightly lower. Not worth it.
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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Jeremy (Barbecued) on 2011-07-12, 10:27

    When you snowball, it's the same probability that you'll gain/lose the same as regular wagering.

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    Post by qrooltex on 2011-07-13, 06:15

    Barbecued wrote:When you snowball, it's the same probability that you'll gain/lose the same as regular wagering.

    This is actually not true. When you snowball, you basically give yourself more chances to win. In dice duel, this is limited to four "doubles" due to the commission. However, in 55x2 or 60x2, this is different as you can theoretically "double" an infinite amount of times, provided you had the money to do so. So to sum it up, in 55x2 or 60x2, if you had a near infinite amount of money, you'd have a nearly 100% chance of winning.
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    Post by Matthew on 2011-07-13, 06:22

    qrooltex wrote:
    Barbecued wrote:When you snowball, it's the same probability that you'll gain/lose the same as regular wagering.

    This is actually not true. When you snowball, you basically give yourself more chances to win. In dice duel, this is limited to four "doubles" due to the commission. However, in 55x2 or 60x2, this is different as you can theoretically "double" an infinite amount of times, provided you had the money to do so. So to sum it up, in 55x2 or 60x2, if you had a near infinite amount of money, you'd have a nearly 100% chance of winning.

    Yeah but its too bad most of the people snowballing dont have a near infinite amount of money.

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    Post by qrooltex on 2011-07-13, 06:24

    Mr M Esaibid wrote:
    qrooltex wrote:
    Barbecued wrote:When you snowball, it's the same probability that you'll gain/lose the same as regular wagering.

    This is actually not true. When you snowball, you basically give yourself more chances to win. In dice duel, this is limited to four "doubles" due to the commission. However, in 55x2 or 60x2, this is different as you can theoretically "double" an infinite amount of times, provided you had the money to do so. So to sum it up, in 55x2 or 60x2, if you had a near infinite amount of money, you'd have a nearly 100% chance of winning.

    Yeah but its too bad most of the people snowballing dont have a near infinite amount of money.

    Well you really don't need a near infinite amount of money to lower your chances of losing money to <0.01%. In the end, it all comes down to how much money you want to make, higher being more risky.

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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-07-13, 09:09

    Host Phd wrote:How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours
    If this is true, you were very lucky. Congrats.

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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Panda on 2011-07-13, 09:12

    This is how i got cleaned lol.

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    Re: How I Changed 8M Into 540M Within 4 Hours

    Post by Trevmage on 2011-07-13, 09:14

    Host Panda wrote:This is how i got cleaned lol.
    ^ This is what usually will happen.

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    Post by Im saved on 2011-07-17, 02:36

    nice money making, but i have done this and lost all times lol Very Happy
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    Post by venis19 on 2011-09-06, 01:29

    I have also thought this way:)

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